and 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the nra. >> juliet: these are three separate polls. it's not one poll. so we're grabbing from different polls. >> eric: and again, by the way, those little dots on the map indicated only hand gun permits. not concealed carry permits and you don't -- there is no requirement for a permit to own a shotgun. so some of the other people who aren't red dotted feel like they're becoming targets saying, hey, if i don't have a red dot on my address, a predator or criminal may come to my house instead of one that has a red dot. remember, criminals, all you people, they still might have a shotgun. and that can make you as dead as hand guns. >> juliet: when you try to get that information from the freedom of information act, it doesn't tell you the specific type of weaponry that they have there. >> eric: or when the last time they had the gun in the house. it could be from a 1965 permit. >> juliet: that's true. >> kelly: the debate continues throughout the country. meantime, president obama's epa chief resigned and her reason? it may be just a cove